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US Secretary of State Marco Rubio is expected to hold talks with Pope Leo XIV at the Vatican, with discussions likely to focus on tensions over the Iran war and broader US foreign policy.
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- Marco Rubio is set for a “frank” meeting with Pope Leo XIV at the Vatican amid tensions over the Iran war.
- Donald Trump criticised the Pope, accusing him of being soft on Iran, a claim the Vatican disputes.
- US officials say the visit aims to improve dialogue, not repair a “deep rift”, as differences over war and immigration persist.
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio expects a “frank” meeting with Pope Leo during a visit to the Vatican on Thursday, the US ambassador said, after President Donald Trump took a fresh potshot at the Pope for criticising the US-Israeli war in Iran.
“Nations have disagreements, and I think one of the ways that you work through those is ... through fraternity and authentic dialogue,” Brian Burch, the US ambassador to the Holy See, said on Tuesday.
“I think the Secretary is coming here in that spirit,” Burch told journalists. “To have a frank conversation about US policy, to engage in dialogue.”
Trump has repeatedly disparaged the first US-born Pope in recent weeks, drawing a backlash from Christian leaders across the political spectrum.
In his latest comments, Trump told right-wing radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt that “the Pope would rather talk about the fact that it’s okay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, and I don’t think that’s very good.
Trump said:
I think he’s endangering a lot of Catholics and a lot of people. But I guess if it’s up to the Pope, he thinks it’s just fine for Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
Leo has never said Iran should have nuclear weapons, but has opposed the war, which Trump says is aimed at ending Iran’s nuclear programme.
Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican’s top diplomat, said he did not know if Leo would respond to Trump’s latest comments.
“The pope will go ahead on his path, in the sense of preaching the Gospel (and) peace,” Parolin, the Vatican’s Secretary of State, told journalists. He said Leo would speak about peace at every opportunity, “convenient and inconvenient”.

Pope Leo XIV warned that democracies were descending into tyranny after attacks from US President Donald Trump.
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Rubio will ‘talk through’ differences with Pope
Rubio is Catholic, as is Vice President JD Vance. The two met Leo a year ago after attending his inaugural mass, the Trump administration’s only known cabinet-level meeting with the Pope.
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Burch was asked after an event hosted by his embassy at Rome’s Gregorian University on Tuesday if Rubio was hoping to repair Trump’s relationship with Leo.
The ambassador responded:
I don’t accept the idea that somehow there’s some deep rift.
Rubio is coming, Burch said, so that the US and the Vatican can “better understand each other, and to work through, if there are differences, certainly to talk through that”.
Rubio is also set to meet on Friday with Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, who defended the Pope. Her defence minister has said the war in Iran puts US leadership at risk.
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Leo, who marks his first year as leader of the 1.4-billion-member Catholic Church on Friday, maintained a relatively low profile on the global stage in the first months of his papacy but has emerged in recent weeks as a firm critic of the war on Iran.
The Pope has also sharply criticised the Trump administration’s hardline anti-immigration policies. And he has called for dialogue between the US and Catholic-majority Cuba, which has suffered frequent blackouts owing to US sanctions intended to put pressure on its one-party Communist government.


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